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		<title>Comment on ACORNs by Oakland Greens Propose an Oakland Progressive Alliance &#171; Alameda County Green Party Blog</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/acorns/#comment-5342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oakland Greens Propose an Oakland Progressive Alliance &#171; Alameda County Green Party Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Wilson Riles, Oakland Community Action Network [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on ACORNs by Progressive Opportunities Conference: FEBRUARY 26, 2012</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/acorns/#comment-5267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Progressive Opportunities Conference: FEBRUARY 26, 2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Clean Energy Alliance, LocalOn, Marin Sun Farms, Network of Bay Area Worker Cooperatives (NoBAWC), Oakland Acorn ID/Currency Card, Oakland Grown Gift Card, Occupy Berkeley, Occupy Oakland – Local Business Liaisons, Occupy SF, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Clean Energy Alliance, LocalOn, Marin Sun Farms, Network of Bay Area Worker Cooperatives (NoBAWC), Oakland Acorn ID/Currency Card, Oakland Grown Gift Card, Occupy Berkeley, Occupy Oakland – Local Business Liaisons, Occupy SF, [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACORNs by Paul Glover</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/acorns/#comment-5196</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a practical matter, local currency needs to become at least as easy to use as dollars.  The theory of demurrage is, I believe, more appealing than its real world impact.  Threatening people with loss of value, requiring cumbersome affixing of stamps, or requiring replacement of expired notes, or extinguishment of electronic credits, give local money a bad name.  Inflation is already demurrage, an incentive to spend.  But the best incentives are positive-- the enjoyment of local trade.  Stimulating preference for relying on local money is an essential cultural challenge.

Just my opinion.  If you create a community currency, impose demurrage, and make it work in our more instant gratification culture, I&#039;m willing to adjust based on your success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a practical matter, local currency needs to become at least as easy to use as dollars.  The theory of demurrage is, I believe, more appealing than its real world impact.  Threatening people with loss of value, requiring cumbersome affixing of stamps, or requiring replacement of expired notes, or extinguishment of electronic credits, give local money a bad name.  Inflation is already demurrage, an incentive to spend.  But the best incentives are positive&#8211; the enjoyment of local trade.  Stimulating preference for relying on local money is an essential cultural challenge.</p>
<p>Just my opinion.  If you create a community currency, impose demurrage, and make it work in our more instant gratification culture, I&#8217;m willing to adjust based on your success.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACORNs by Jill Harrison</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/acorns/#comment-3051</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill Harrison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need to recognize that monetary systems reflect specific values and that _real_ free market competition includes complementary currencies that reflect different values. Our usury based dollars value speculation too heavily at the expense of people who wish to pursue other goals. Those who enjoy the game of wealth building and leverage this currency which is expected to grow in value and provide a positive rent/interest are well served by this system. The problem is we are all captive to this winner take all game &amp; the currency is rigged against those who would prefer to put their energies to other purposes (and hire the wrong financial adviser). There is a reason that 90% of the wealth has migrated into the hands of less than 5% of the people. This is because the money flows are set up to move the money to the people who receive more interest than they pay from the larger population of people who are paying more interest than they receive. As this money pools into fewer hands the velocity slows, particularly at times like this when large speculative bubbles need time to unwind. A currency with a small &#039;holding fee&#039; (a demurrage fee, negative interest rate, or a &#039;flat tax on currency&#039; - however you&#039;d like to frame it) is designed to increase the velocity of money and diminish its value as a speculative instrument.

Money has been defined as having 3 functions: a unit of value, a medium of exchange, and a store of value. The last 2 functions have contradictory effects in how the money flows thru society &amp; we need a currency that favors &quot;medium of exchange&quot; and will continue to function during downturns like this one. Having a currency designed specifically to address the function of &#039;medium of exchange&#039; is an important part of the ecology of healthy economic exchange. One good example is the CHIEMGAUER (http://www.ijccr.net/IJCCR​/2009_%2813%29_files/IJCCR​vol13%282009%29pp61-75Gell​eri.pdf) in Austria, which is a demurrage currency having a small &#039;holding fee&#039; attached to boost the velocity of the money. If local governments issued demurrage currencies to fund the local bond issues people vote for, then they could spend the currency into circulation on the social infrastructure like teachers, police and fire departments. This democratizes the credit commons as Thomas Greco recommends (rather than borrowing dollars at interest). During the last depression this was tried very successfully in Worgl (see minute 2 of this 4 minute video http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=hxdPIOUTd2k).

Money is a great invention - but our role in society changed when we evolved from an agrarian culture into modern urban life. With mass production of products and ever denser populations it&#039;s no longer possible for individuals to make most of the things required to survive in an urban environment. Economists have been clear about the value of this &#039;specialization of skills &amp; knowledge&#039; on the increased wealth in our society. But there has not been a fair bargain made for all the people who forfeit their self sufficiency to live in this interdependent culture. This is the reason that billions of dollars are paid to the financial leaders who make the investment instruments that take the world to the brink of collapse while the skilled tradesmen are a dying breed.

I disagree with Paul Glover&#039;s comment about demurrage currency above.  
Demurrage currencies promote long term thinking by imposing the same &#039;storage fee on currency&#039; that real assets have. Positive interest rate amounts to preferring short term gains since returns on long term projects are exponentially discounted to present value. Demurrage currencies have the opposite effect, it’s much more profitable to spend them on productive long term projects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to recognize that monetary systems reflect specific values and that _real_ free market competition includes complementary currencies that reflect different values. Our usury based dollars value speculation too heavily at the expense of people who wish to pursue other goals. Those who enjoy the game of wealth building and leverage this currency which is expected to grow in value and provide a positive rent/interest are well served by this system. The problem is we are all captive to this winner take all game &amp; the currency is rigged against those who would prefer to put their energies to other purposes (and hire the wrong financial adviser). There is a reason that 90% of the wealth has migrated into the hands of less than 5% of the people. This is because the money flows are set up to move the money to the people who receive more interest than they pay from the larger population of people who are paying more interest than they receive. As this money pools into fewer hands the velocity slows, particularly at times like this when large speculative bubbles need time to unwind. A currency with a small &#8216;holding fee&#8217; (a demurrage fee, negative interest rate, or a &#8216;flat tax on currency&#8217; &#8211; however you&#8217;d like to frame it) is designed to increase the velocity of money and diminish its value as a speculative instrument.</p>
<p>Money has been defined as having 3 functions: a unit of value, a medium of exchange, and a store of value. The last 2 functions have contradictory effects in how the money flows thru society &amp; we need a currency that favors &#8220;medium of exchange&#8221; and will continue to function during downturns like this one. Having a currency designed specifically to address the function of &#8216;medium of exchange&#8217; is an important part of the ecology of healthy economic exchange. One good example is the CHIEMGAUER (<a href="http://www.ijccr.net/IJCCR​/2009_%2813%29_files/IJCCR​vol13%282009%29pp61-75Gell​eri.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ijccr.net/IJCCR​/2009_%2813%29_files/IJCCR​vol13%282009%29pp61-75Gell​eri.pdf</a>) in Austria, which is a demurrage currency having a small &#8216;holding fee&#8217; attached to boost the velocity of the money. If local governments issued demurrage currencies to fund the local bond issues people vote for, then they could spend the currency into circulation on the social infrastructure like teachers, police and fire departments. This democratizes the credit commons as Thomas Greco recommends (rather than borrowing dollars at interest). During the last depression this was tried very successfully in Worgl (see minute 2 of this 4 minute video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=hxdPIOUTd2k" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=hxdPIOUTd2k</a>).</p>
<p>Money is a great invention &#8211; but our role in society changed when we evolved from an agrarian culture into modern urban life. With mass production of products and ever denser populations it&#8217;s no longer possible for individuals to make most of the things required to survive in an urban environment. Economists have been clear about the value of this &#8216;specialization of skills &amp; knowledge&#8217; on the increased wealth in our society. But there has not been a fair bargain made for all the people who forfeit their self sufficiency to live in this interdependent culture. This is the reason that billions of dollars are paid to the financial leaders who make the investment instruments that take the world to the brink of collapse while the skilled tradesmen are a dying breed.</p>
<p>I disagree with Paul Glover&#8217;s comment about demurrage currency above.<br />
Demurrage currencies promote long term thinking by imposing the same &#8216;storage fee on currency&#8217; that real assets have. Positive interest rate amounts to preferring short term gains since returns on long term projects are exponentially discounted to present value. Demurrage currencies have the opposite effect, it’s much more profitable to spend them on productive long term projects.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACORNs by Bruce Stoffmacher</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/acorns/#comment-2135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Stoffmacher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Currently Oakland has the lowest “multiplier rate” of any city in the Bay Area-&quot; do you have research to back this up? I would be interested in evidence to this effect.
Thank you.
Bruce]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Currently Oakland has the lowest “multiplier rate” of any city in the Bay Area-&#8221; do you have research to back this up? I would be interested in evidence to this effect.<br />
Thank you.<br />
Bruce</p>
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		<title>Comment on Municipal ID Card Conference in Oakland, Sat, Aug 21 by jlm108</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/2010/08/13/municipal-id-card-conference-in-oakland-sat-aug-21/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jlm108]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the event organizer, Miguel Robles, the conference is open to the public and all interested people are invited to attend.  It will also be streamed live on the internet for global participation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the event organizer, Miguel Robles, the conference is open to the public and all interested people are invited to attend.  It will also be streamed live on the internet for global participation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Municipal ID Card Conference in Oakland, Sat, Aug 21 by Chris Cook</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/2010/08/13/municipal-id-card-conference-in-oakland-sat-aug-21/#comment-1240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m based in Scotland, and with a little seed funding from the Norwegian government I&#039;ve been taking a simple but radical new partnership-based approach to &#039;Peer to Peer&#039; credit and investment.

See

http://www.policyinnovations.org/ideas/innovations/data/000085

My approach would be to create an open &#039;Oakland Society&#039; as a voluntary unincorporated association or &#039;club&#039;, based upon a very simple statement of principles and purpose.

The ID card would simply be the membership card of the Oakland Society.

A core function, and attraction, of the Oakland Society would be - for anyone who wishes to participate - as a &#039;Guarantee Society&#039; (GS). How this works is that the members of a GS provide a collective guarantee of bilateral &#039;Peer to Peer&#039; credit aka &#039;time to pay&#039; both business to business (B2B) but also for business to customer (B2C) credit.

This credit is interest free, but not cost free, and it takes place within the framework of trust provided by the GS agreement.

How it works is that both seller and buyer on credit terms pay an amount (which may look like interest, but isn&#039;t, because it&#039;s for the use of the guarantee service, not the use of money) into a default pool fund held in common by a custodian. A service-provider-formerly-known-as-a-bank manages the system; sets guarantee limits; and handles defaults in accordance with GS policies. Credit may be settled in dollars, or - more to the point - in &#039;dollars&#039; worth&#039; of goods and services, or of other value eg units redeemable in energy or units redeemable in land rental value. All transactions are priced in dollars, even though they may not all be settled in dollars.

The service provider is paid his costs, and a (default) performance related bonus, and any excess after meeting default charges is distributed as a dividend to all GS members so that those who are supporting the guarantee but not actually using it are compensated.

Using this simple P2P credit architecture - which is implementable tomorrow, consensually, with no change in any law - the credit necessary for the circulation in Oakland of goods and services and the creation of productive assets may be created. Oakland credit is of course not based upon rapidly shrinking bank balance sheets, but rather upon the full faith of members of the Oakland Society. Banks would queue up to provide the service, because their capital requirement is minimal.

Direct &#039;Peer to Peer&#039; investment in new or existing Oakland property and energy assets - using a &#039;Capital Partnership&#039; approach to unitise rental value and energy value - is another function which may be achieved between members of the Oakland Society. The outcome is essentially an Oakland Equity - just not equity as we know it - which would come to replace outstanding Oakland debt, particularly property debt.

See

http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/money-30

and

http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/economic-systems-thinking230710

Happy to participate in the upcoming web event]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m based in Scotland, and with a little seed funding from the Norwegian government I&#8217;ve been taking a simple but radical new partnership-based approach to &#8216;Peer to Peer&#8217; credit and investment.</p>
<p>See</p>
<p><a href="http://www.policyinnovations.org/ideas/innovations/data/000085" rel="nofollow">http://www.policyinnovations.org/ideas/innovations/data/000085</a></p>
<p>My approach would be to create an open &#8216;Oakland Society&#8217; as a voluntary unincorporated association or &#8216;club&#8217;, based upon a very simple statement of principles and purpose.</p>
<p>The ID card would simply be the membership card of the Oakland Society.</p>
<p>A core function, and attraction, of the Oakland Society would be &#8211; for anyone who wishes to participate &#8211; as a &#8216;Guarantee Society&#8217; (GS). How this works is that the members of a GS provide a collective guarantee of bilateral &#8216;Peer to Peer&#8217; credit aka &#8216;time to pay&#8217; both business to business (B2B) but also for business to customer (B2C) credit.</p>
<p>This credit is interest free, but not cost free, and it takes place within the framework of trust provided by the GS agreement.</p>
<p>How it works is that both seller and buyer on credit terms pay an amount (which may look like interest, but isn&#8217;t, because it&#8217;s for the use of the guarantee service, not the use of money) into a default pool fund held in common by a custodian. A service-provider-formerly-known-as-a-bank manages the system; sets guarantee limits; and handles defaults in accordance with GS policies. Credit may be settled in dollars, or &#8211; more to the point &#8211; in &#8216;dollars&#8217; worth&#8217; of goods and services, or of other value eg units redeemable in energy or units redeemable in land rental value. All transactions are priced in dollars, even though they may not all be settled in dollars.</p>
<p>The service provider is paid his costs, and a (default) performance related bonus, and any excess after meeting default charges is distributed as a dividend to all GS members so that those who are supporting the guarantee but not actually using it are compensated.</p>
<p>Using this simple P2P credit architecture &#8211; which is implementable tomorrow, consensually, with no change in any law &#8211; the credit necessary for the circulation in Oakland of goods and services and the creation of productive assets may be created. Oakland credit is of course not based upon rapidly shrinking bank balance sheets, but rather upon the full faith of members of the Oakland Society. Banks would queue up to provide the service, because their capital requirement is minimal.</p>
<p>Direct &#8216;Peer to Peer&#8217; investment in new or existing Oakland property and energy assets &#8211; using a &#8216;Capital Partnership&#8217; approach to unitise rental value and energy value &#8211; is another function which may be achieved between members of the Oakland Society. The outcome is essentially an Oakland Equity &#8211; just not equity as we know it &#8211; which would come to replace outstanding Oakland debt, particularly property debt.</p>
<p>See</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/money-30" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/money-30</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/economic-systems-thinking230710" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/economic-systems-thinking230710</a></p>
<p>Happy to participate in the upcoming web event</p>
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		<title>Comment on Municipal ID Card Conference in Oakland, Sat, Aug 21 by lucero</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/2010/08/13/municipal-id-card-conference-in-oakland-sat-aug-21/#comment-1232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lucero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was wondering if this was open to the public or if it was just organizations disscussing the issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if this was open to the public or if it was just organizations disscussing the issue?</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACORNs by Oakland&#8217;s own currency? Mayoral candidates aren&#8217;t buying it, yet &#8211; Oakland North -- North Oakland News, Food, Art and Events.</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/acorns/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oakland&#8217;s own currency? Mayoral candidates aren&#8217;t buying it, yet &#8211; Oakland North -- North Oakland News, Food, Art and Events.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Riles’s idea for “alternative currency” originates from the push for a city identification card that would benefit undocumented immigrants but would also have the side effect of singling them out. He thinks that the card would get a wider audience if it&#8217;s digitally linked to a local Oakland currency, the acorn, which would also encourage residents to keep their dollars circulating within the city. Read more about acorns here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Riles’s idea for “alternative currency” originates from the push for a city identification card that would benefit undocumented immigrants but would also have the side effect of singling them out. He thinks that the card would get a wider audience if it&#8217;s digitally linked to a local Oakland currency, the acorn, which would also encourage residents to keep their dollars circulating within the city. Read more about acorns here. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by mady</title>
		<link>http://oaklandcityidcard.org/about/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its fantastic atleast everyone in the place will have a ID.Its good.I also want to get one.What is the procedure and what documents you require to get it.Is it possible to get by mail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its fantastic atleast everyone in the place will have a ID.Its good.I also want to get one.What is the procedure and what documents you require to get it.Is it possible to get by mail.</p>
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